The Puritan, The Hebrew and America Revisioned

I have written before how, there are those in this nation, who lay claim to the idea that we are a "Chosen Nation of God" and they are doing their best to make their vote be the most important vote that a candidate can obtain. We are in essence taking dog's and having them to pretend they are holy Christians just so they can obtain votes. All one has to do as portray the idea that you are Christian, pro-life (which is baloney anyway, most of the prolifers I know are like Bush Pro-War- which is far from being Pro-Life), you believe in the Ten Commandments and on the list goes, depending on which denomination you are from.
The Christian Zionist and Christian Nationalist forget we have already had the experience once in this nation of a society that was driven by the conception of Christian law.
They were called the Puritans.
They dicatated everything about your life.
The people as a whole were liberty-loving in the extreme, but the individual was restrained at every step by laws that no free people of today would tolerate for an hour. Paternalism in government was the rule in the other colonies and in Europe, but nowhere was it carried to such an extreme as in New England.
Here the civil law laid its hand upon the citizen in his business and social relations; it regulated his religious affairs, it dictated his dress, and even invaded the home circle and directed his family relations. One law forbade the wearing of lace, another of "slashed cloaths other than one slash in each sleeve and another in the back." The length and width of a lady's sleeve was solemnly decided by law. It was a penal offense for a man to wear long hair, or to smoke in the street, or for a youth to court a maid without the consent of her parents. A man was not permitted to kiss his wife in public. Captain Kimble, returning from a three-years' ocean voyage, kissed his wife on his own doorstep and spent two hours in the stocks for his "lewed and unseemly behavior".

How far will the new Christian Nationalist take us down this road of their revisioned history to gain power in politics rather than power over sin in their own individual lives?

Will we become a people that will drag homosexuals out into the street, and hang them or stone them. Or will we be a people that presents the forgiveness and love of God to them and offer them an opportunity for repentance and faith in Jesus Christ? Will we brand those that are caught in adultery? Will we put people back into stocks on the courthouse yard? Will we take prostitutes out into a field and stone them. Perhaps we will do as the Puritans did, even hang those we think are practicing witchcraft or burn them at the stake. Those that even think they can rule this nation through laws they want to define as Christian are guilty of breaking these laws. Yet, they persist. They call themselves, Pro-life, well I am Pro-Life- I believe all life is precious to the Father, and therefore I am also truly Pro-life in that I am pro-anti-resistant to war, any war for any cause - creates death and destruction. So, out of one side of your mouth you proclaim - Thou Shall Not Murder, yet we back a candidate who has been responsible for more murders than you can count. He began as Governor of Texas, more people died under his governship from capital punishment then any other governor, even one who claimed to be a sister in Christ was murdered by the State by his decision.
Pro-Life- that is a joke.
I would like to provide you with a website to read, something written which is the simple Gospel for Pro-Zionist, and all those who get on the Ten Commandment band wagon. I recommend you read below his article from http://www.apuritansmind.com/Tracts%20and%20Writings/KeepingTheLaw.htm

In the end, would you like to have every aspect of your life from what you wear, to what you do on Sabbath or the Lord's Day dictated by a few and the powerful, as the Puritans did. We have already realized once in this country the terrible results of this kind of thinking, do we have to relive it again. Study history, what the Christian Nationalist, and Pro-Zionist are pushing for in this country has already happened once in this country and many times throughout history and the world. The results were not freedom or liberty as found in Jesus Christ but a very narrow conscriptive way of life for all involved.

There is nothing greater that threatens religious liberty and the freedom of men than a government that is religious.
Dr. J.

With all this in mind - ask yourself again - How well do "I" keep the Law?

This was the summation of Dr. C. Matthew McMahon and his writing if you read it, on his web site called a Puritan's Mind.

Christian Nationalism and Article 6 - Clause 3

I have long been bothered by the notion of Christian Nationalism, and this as a Christian.
It is a scary idea and as dangerous as any totalitarian ideas that have come along in a very long time.
It is a movement that purports to have come up with a complete governing program from the Bible, and with that they claim divine sanction for a campaign of national renewal. It promotes a revisionist history in which the founders were conservative Christians who never meant to separate church and state, and in which America's true Christian character has been subverted by several generations of God-hating leftists.

America admittedly has been subverted, but it isn't because Christians weren't in positions of power and money. The church today is wealthy, and it has always had the right to exercise vote on issues. What happened, Christians were less concerned with social and political changes for the "all" then they were with investing money into building funds, expansion of their particular denominational ideas, and sitting quietly in their pews. While sin will continue until Christ returns, legislation will not create a redeemed man, woman or child.
Only the life of Christ can do this. It is apparent that the problem doesn't lie so much in our form of government, but those that are governed who have lived ungodly lives and lived in religious institutions, hiding from the world.

Christian Nationalist dogma has very scary results. History has proven this time after time. any religious group no matter what they subscribe to, always ends badly.

Let's see how our forefathers first solved the problem when the government disinherited any one religion from running this country.

Article Six, Clause 3 states: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Now this is true separation of Church from State.

Now to the liberals, this never meant a man couldn't be a Christian and serve in a political position as they would like to see.

What it meant was that government would never make the mistake of creating an alliance with any one religous view to rule the masses based on it's concepts of justice or other.
Religious equality was it's purpose.
It was a radical idea, that has protected us all from tyranny for a very long time.

To quote from a source;

But its hard to get around the simple fact that there is no mention of God or Christianity anywhere in the Constitution. This was not because the Framers were irreligious. It was because they believed in religious freedom and did not want the government to interfere in religious affairs. Nor did they want the abuses of power that come from commonly state power with the power of the clergy. Its true that the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution or any of the amendments.
But the meaning has been unambiguously been there from the beginning.

The danger of Christian Nationalism, is that a very few are to dictate for the all, what is good, what is evil, what is allowed, what isn't allowed, and so on. This is totalitarianism in it's fullest definition. Who will decide, that their interpertation of law that they extropolate from scripture is truth? Who will exercise judgement of these laws? Men? Men, that simply because they say they are Christian will rule above all others and all other concepts of justice and equality. This is dangerous. This creates despots and dictators. What one must never forget is:

"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."

History is already written and overrun with the story of those who thought they were God's specially called individual to create the "City of God", from Popes, clergymen to political leaders. It always has resulted in a preponderance of blood shed, inquisitions, war, and power exercised over the impoverished.
When will Christians see that in the Old Testament that they so suddenly want to rule with, the folly of a people who thought they could keep the law, Israel. The law is the schoolmaster to Christ.
For Christians, we need to less concern ourselves with making law and dictating that law, as bringing others to Christ. We are called as ministers of reconciliation. All of us who claim the name of Christ.

Politics and the Law is not where souls are saved.

People get saved when they see God's love and forgiveness. Yes, judgement is part of God's plan but it is just that it belongs to God and not us. Now someday when Christ our Judge and Lawgiver returns there will be a true "theocracy" once again worldwide, but only Christ can judge righteously and without bias. Only those that this flesh has been cut from completely and finally in our total transformation from what we are now, a fallen man, saved only because of the grace of God to the revelation of being the true sons of God, will we be able to judge righteously.

It doesn't promote Christianity, but Artice 6, Clause 3, is very wise in the context of things and prevents, any one denomination, religion or other to be the test for serving in these positions of political power.
Let me ask the Baptist, would you be happy if all the Congressman and Legislators were Catholic? Of course not. What if all the Congressman and Legislators were Baptist. What then would become of the law of the land? Would it appease all those divided denominations to be ruled by others of another because they to can lay claim to be Christian as being defined by the leaders of these Christian Nationalistic ideas. Would you accept a Mormon, or A Jehovah Witness, or a Unitarian, who also say they are Christian.
Of course not, you would define and dictate what YOU consider Christian and all others would be overruled. Who would decide what is Christian and what isn't - a few over the all?

I will say as a Christian that there must have been some tremendous wisdom that did come from a higher authority to come up with Article 6, Clause 3.
I would prefer to think as a Christian that God would prefer we leave as it is. We need to quit trying to revise history to make people believe lies. Get busy living and preaching the Good News, and get out of the pulpits of preaching a moral majority rightness that you are allowing others to dictate. You want to see the world turned upside down for Jesus, get up out of your pews and reachout to the hurting, the AIDS victims, the poor, the orphan, the widow, the drug addict and more. Let love become real!
I promise you will see a change in America and it won't come from legislating and punishing anyone that disagrees with you. It will come because the love of God will be shed abroad in their hearts. Love conquers all.

Sin has it's consequenses, and we all live with them. Trying to legislate righteousness didn't work for Israel and it won't work for America. A changed people, that are truly the reflection of God's love toward men, this will change America.

It is dangerous to think you can trample on the choice of others, because you decide what is wrong or right and most often from a fleshly self centered interpretation of scripture.

I am not getting on the boat to these ideas of Christian Nationalism. My hope is not in these kingdoms, which are all false and ungodly. My hope is in the Kingdom of God, where Christ rules MY life.

Quit worrying about everyone else, and get concerned with yourself. What sins are you hiding now? What things in your life need to be brought under the kingship of Jesus?

Now if you being a man, of failure in so many areas of your life, how can you possible expect to rule America while you are a sinner. "Judge not less you might be judged."

I think our forefathers had more foresight than any Christian Nationalist when they wrote Article 6 , Clause 3.

With such wisdom, it had to be clearly the intervention of a wise and loving God.

Now if you want to say our forefathers were all Christians and re-write history, go ahead. But before you do, perhaps then you will look at the godly wisdom they had to write this in the Constitution and yet you want to change it. What does that say about this unChristian movement wanting to make a correlation between the cross and the flag. I say it spells the words out clearly - IDOLATRY AND PRIDE.

You're wrong, flat wrong! Christian Nationalism is dangerous to your spiritual health.
REPENT while you can, before it's too late, and the new RELIGIOUS LEADER OF THE WORLD IS DECLARED by the Christian Nationalist, the Christian Zionist. From this unholy union they preach will arise a world False Prophet for sure! Don''t be fooled.

Dr. J.