In history one can find the beginnings of the mythological god named Mars. This god has not died, he persist even today as the true god of those who though in name claim they are Christian, but in deed and in word, they worship Mars the great god of war.
I quote from an excellent analysis of war from a book entitled, " A Terrible Love of War, by James Hillman. Hillman's analysis is true in so many areas, even though he is a psychologist and former Director of Studies at the Carl Jung Institute in Zurich.
It is clear in biblical truth that he is not a true Christian, but in the reality of what most of those believe and do in deed and word he is "christian", as he explains. Western theology, the way of life and all, most individuals who are in this country lay claim to being christian. Matter of fact, 80% of America claims to be Christian from polls done.
Though in truth I know and anybody who has a true comprehension of Jesus' life, the life of the Apostles, and the martyrs, that until Constantine- the church was founded by the Prince of Peace, but from that point on the god Mars has become our god, superimposed upon Jesus, the Prince of Peace, he is now the War God. These are they that are not biblical Christians, they are what Western idealism has made them, hypocrites! They still since the time of Constantine hold fast the doctrines of a pagan god Mars as their new Jesus.
Western Christianity's god comes front and center when war is in the air. War brings it's god to life. In World War 2, this god was a co-pilot on bombing runs, as one book title declared, and a popular song turned a chaplain into a "helluva gunner". In World War 1, "Clergymen dressed Jesus in Khaki and had him firing machine guns". The bishop of London exhorted his Christian fellows to "kill the good as well as the bad...kill the young men as well as the old...kill those who have shown kindness to our wounded as well as those fiends..."
Let me quote from a prayer in his book which so typifies the prayers of the Babylonian church (Kirke) today. These have become the prayers of the faithful - those Christian Nationalist and Pro- Zionist just before battle.
O Lord Our God,
help us
to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells;
help us
to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriotic dead;
help us
to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded writhing in pain;
help us
to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire;
Ah! war has such a sweet sound to the faithful, herein is their chance to prove their god Mars overall is god of all gods. To put this in place they declare this when by mere defeat of an enemy through bloodshed and violence, that American truth and American Christianity is the only truth and that we shall rule the world whether you like it or not.
To ask the question: here is what James Hillman ask, and I do the same.
"The retreat to love leaves untouched the important question that each of us as Christians must pose: why is Christianity, which entered the world as a religion of love and has distinguished itself from other world religions by the message of love in it's founder and it's apostles and exemplified in its martyrs and saints, also so martial (lovers of war)?
Its notion of love has not coverted the god of war, and in fact the Christian culture has inspired the greatest long lasting war machine of any culture anywhere. Does this not demand from our educated Christian minds a sharper examination of Christian love?
I still marvel how those who prefer the New Covenant of grace and forgiveness for themselves offer none to others. What surprise they will have on Judgement Day by the Supreme Judge, who shall look at them, and say " I knew you not".
Until then Americans will continue with their pagan god Mars re-created into the image of the former Prince of Peace to now be called their great King of War and their "justified wars" so that the great "City of God' the United States and Israel may continue in their hypocrisy of the lie they live in, and live with.
How perverted the Gospel of Jesus has become, what shirking there shall be in shame when the Prince returns.
How Americans love their god of war Mars, and until the real Jesus stands up, and shouts no more, there will be wars and rumor of wars, until He comes.
As for me and my household, we are going to serve the living Lord Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace and true love. Who said emphatically in word and deed, "Love thy enemy".
If love is pointing guns at another and blowing his head off, then I will choose the opposite of this definition of love. I will choose true love, that looks down from a cross and says "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do".
The hardest words ever spoke by anyone that could only come from our Father who forgives those who forgives others.
How we have forgotten the truth of Christianity and bought into the babylonian baloney, the church of Constantine and his warriors, proclaiming visions of conquering under this sign, the cross. The cross symbolizes everything in Christianity of a submissive Savior but we in America have turned the cross as Constantine did, into a sword.
God have mercy on us, for we have bought the greatest lie of Satan ever, that we are superior over all others, and we are the soldiers of Jesus with our WMD's and our biowarfare and our super bombers, and our future weapons, we have come to believe conversion means to beat the pagan over the head until he bleeds, as the wounds bleed profusely and splatter blood onto our Bibles, and then we can shout, " I have made a new convert". Ah! When in truth we will be doing just what Jesus reprimanded the Pharisees for, making a more of a child of the devil, then they were in the first place.
This lie has continued since the times of Constantine and can be studied by any and all in church history. Why because the church of America, is not the EKKLESIA, called out ones of Christ, but a mix bag of Judeo- altered truths, jewish myths, satanic lies, american ideas of patriotism, manifest destiny and a false gospel of purintee.. BUNK!
Come out of her!
She has perverted the truth of Christ into a mythological god named MARS!
The god of War.
I am sickened by knowing the truth. It makes my stomach turn when I hear others who claim to know Jesus, while loving war and supporting it, and proclaiming it holy.
I Thessalonians 2:13-16
4 For ye, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God which are in Judaea in Christ Jesus:for ye also suffered the same things of your own countrymen, even as they did of the Jews; 15 who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove out us, and pleased not God, and are contrary to all men; 16 forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they may be saved; to fill up their sins always:but the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Paul knew what to expect and it is here!
2 Timothy 4:3-4
1 I charge thee in the sight of God, and of Christ Jesus, who shall judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word; be urgent in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts; 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto (fables).
or (myths) some translations say-
the mythological god of Mars - the war god is the myth they have turned to.
So, I hear the Word and act on the Word.
Titus 1:10-14
For there are many unruly men, vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision, 11 whose mouths must be stopped; men who overthrow whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. 12 One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, idle gluttons. 13 This testimony is true. For which cause reprove them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14 not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men who turn away from the truth. 15 To the pure all things are pure:but to them that are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but both their mind and their conscience are defiled. 16 They profess that they know God; but by their works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
So here ye, here ye, ministers of unrighteousness, I reprove you sharply, so that you may become sound in the faith. Less, you are truly Satan who has appeared even as an angel of light.
Satan does have his ministers as well. War and the love of war are from the dredges of his bottomless pit. It was Satan who authored the first real war, when he rebelled against God, and the first human followed soon afterward with the murder of Abel.
I invite you to know the REAL JESUS - PRINCE OF PEACE, who said "my Kingdom is not of this world".
Dr. J.
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Wednesday, April 4, 2007
The Parable of the Home and Land
There was a home that had been owned for over 100 years by the same family. They enjoyed where they lived because the land around the home was plentiful for growing their own food, and making a life for themselves and their future generations. Now many years ago, previous to the land and home being bought and owned by the present owners, there was a different family that had owned the land, but because they had failed to keep the land and the home and it was sold at auction because the one who had sold the land to them, told them how it was to be zoned, and what kind of home had to be built, etc. and they didn't listen, so the home and it's land went to the present owners.
These same former home and land owners decided they wanted the land and home back, though it rightfully had been sold to it's new owners. So one day they decided with the help of a different land owner, in a different country, to take the land by force. Now, you must understand they had no right to this land, as they once did, before they failed to listen to the seller , the King and they were removed from the home and land they once owned.
So, they forcefully moved back into part of the land and part of the home. Though they had broke all laws, the country from far away who had helped them take it by force, continued to supply the thief with all the arms and force it needed to steal away the home and farm. They even convinced these land owners from far way that they would be very blessed by their King, if they would go along with their trickery. The owners now having their land and home partially taken from them, were doing the best they could to hold onto what little they had. However, the country far away was much more powerful and had lots of arms and they begin to threaten the home owners as well with direct interdiction if they didnt keep moving out little by little so the former land and home owners could continue to steal away from what was their own. They also decided the best way to go about this was to tell them they could have no weapons to protect themselves, or else. Yet, while the new home owners were listening out of great fear to the threats made, the old home and land owners, who had stolen part of their home and land were still acquiring the same weapons they the rightful owners were denied to own.
Matter of fact the thieves were daily aiming these weapons at them and firing them and killing them within their own homeland. Every now and then one of the home owners would fire back at them, but this only made things worse for them, because the country from afar would take the side of the attackers and threaten them again with not only their great weapons, but these weapons were also in the hands of their enemy- the home and land thief.
Now, across the world many kingdoms had come together in unison to try to maintain peace across the world, and they had even declared what the old land and home owner was doing was in violation of their laws. The ally of the thieves, cared not for their laws or their enforcement of them, so they went right on giving arms to the thieves, and threatening the people who truly owned the land and home now.
The worst part of it all, the ally to the thieves now claimed that anyone that was kin to the rightful owners of the land, no matter where they lived in the world also couldn't have these weapons to protect their home and land. For those that were kin feared these people and their ally, for they knew how they could come and steal what was rightfully theirs, so whatever they could do to hold on to what they owned this they would do, though the ally of the thieves made threats and fired their weapons at them as well.
Now along comes the King of the people who had given their land to the new owners and declares they are wrong, The thieves didn't care, they wanted the land so bad, that they killed the king and then told a lie, to their allies as well, that before the King died, (at their hands unknown to most), that he had declared the land and home was rightfully theirs and to not help them acquire it and protect it, they would be going against the King himself who had been the most powerful King of all Kingdoms. However, the King was so great that, he came back to life, and all those that placed their loyalty to him were his subjects, in no matter what land or home they lived in. He decided to get out of the land business into the heart business. The thieves would still not proclaim him King even after His resurrection, they were so bent on owning the land and the home they had lost, that nothing mattered more, and even those in the land they had stolen and the home they had invaded, were thought their enemy, as many in these lands had given their allegiance to Him. These who had went into the heart business as well in the land and home they truly owned, but the great land owner from far away, was so convinced that the people who stole the land were right and they believed the King was crazy now for changing his ways from land owner to heart owner, they continued to persist in helping the evil thieves in their taking from all the kinsmen their land and yet proclaiming at the same time an allegiance to the risen King.
They even convinced many of those who proclaimed this same allegiance to think they were serving the King if they would help in their goal to own all the lands and all the homes of the kinsmen who rightfully held ownership to the land. That they would be serving the King's wishes if they only changed his ideas back from heart to land ownership. They did well at this. They so convinced these that allegiance to the King and His rule over all men, that they contributed millions of dollars and speeches and wrote laws to allow the ally of the evil country to continue to break the Kings true purposes and that was to win the heart of all people in all lands, of all races.
Now, when the king asked of his subjects what they would do, if someone came to them and told them that He had given them a right to their home and their land, and forcefully removing them, while all the time lying and proclaiming His kingship to them, what would they do?
Of course, they held so tightly to the idea what was theirs was theirs, they said, they would fight back and keep what was theirs. Yet, while out of one part of their heart they understood their ownership of what was theirs, they went right on acting the opposite and contined to be disloyal to the King and His purposes. Then one day these same liars and hypocrites came and stole their land and homes as well, but they did it with subtleness, they convinced them that they really still owned it all, but giving them the rule over them would protect them from the kinsmen of the rightful owners of the land and home farway. They needed their protection as well so, the ally begin to serve the evil land and home takers every wish. While the King the true King was left with very few subjects, and when they spoke out against the thieves and the lies, they too were considered to be kinsmen to the rightful owners and were persecuted awfully and then came the day, they were killed by many who laid claim to their own personal ownership, and that of the thieves, but no one elses.
Now unto you it is given to understand the Parable.
Dr. J.
These same former home and land owners decided they wanted the land and home back, though it rightfully had been sold to it's new owners. So one day they decided with the help of a different land owner, in a different country, to take the land by force. Now, you must understand they had no right to this land, as they once did, before they failed to listen to the seller , the King and they were removed from the home and land they once owned.
So, they forcefully moved back into part of the land and part of the home. Though they had broke all laws, the country from far away who had helped them take it by force, continued to supply the thief with all the arms and force it needed to steal away the home and farm. They even convinced these land owners from far way that they would be very blessed by their King, if they would go along with their trickery. The owners now having their land and home partially taken from them, were doing the best they could to hold onto what little they had. However, the country far away was much more powerful and had lots of arms and they begin to threaten the home owners as well with direct interdiction if they didnt keep moving out little by little so the former land and home owners could continue to steal away from what was their own. They also decided the best way to go about this was to tell them they could have no weapons to protect themselves, or else. Yet, while the new home owners were listening out of great fear to the threats made, the old home and land owners, who had stolen part of their home and land were still acquiring the same weapons they the rightful owners were denied to own.
Matter of fact the thieves were daily aiming these weapons at them and firing them and killing them within their own homeland. Every now and then one of the home owners would fire back at them, but this only made things worse for them, because the country from afar would take the side of the attackers and threaten them again with not only their great weapons, but these weapons were also in the hands of their enemy- the home and land thief.
Now, across the world many kingdoms had come together in unison to try to maintain peace across the world, and they had even declared what the old land and home owner was doing was in violation of their laws. The ally of the thieves, cared not for their laws or their enforcement of them, so they went right on giving arms to the thieves, and threatening the people who truly owned the land and home now.
The worst part of it all, the ally to the thieves now claimed that anyone that was kin to the rightful owners of the land, no matter where they lived in the world also couldn't have these weapons to protect their home and land. For those that were kin feared these people and their ally, for they knew how they could come and steal what was rightfully theirs, so whatever they could do to hold on to what they owned this they would do, though the ally of the thieves made threats and fired their weapons at them as well.
Now along comes the King of the people who had given their land to the new owners and declares they are wrong, The thieves didn't care, they wanted the land so bad, that they killed the king and then told a lie, to their allies as well, that before the King died, (at their hands unknown to most), that he had declared the land and home was rightfully theirs and to not help them acquire it and protect it, they would be going against the King himself who had been the most powerful King of all Kingdoms. However, the King was so great that, he came back to life, and all those that placed their loyalty to him were his subjects, in no matter what land or home they lived in. He decided to get out of the land business into the heart business. The thieves would still not proclaim him King even after His resurrection, they were so bent on owning the land and the home they had lost, that nothing mattered more, and even those in the land they had stolen and the home they had invaded, were thought their enemy, as many in these lands had given their allegiance to Him. These who had went into the heart business as well in the land and home they truly owned, but the great land owner from far away, was so convinced that the people who stole the land were right and they believed the King was crazy now for changing his ways from land owner to heart owner, they continued to persist in helping the evil thieves in their taking from all the kinsmen their land and yet proclaiming at the same time an allegiance to the risen King.
They even convinced many of those who proclaimed this same allegiance to think they were serving the King if they would help in their goal to own all the lands and all the homes of the kinsmen who rightfully held ownership to the land. That they would be serving the King's wishes if they only changed his ideas back from heart to land ownership. They did well at this. They so convinced these that allegiance to the King and His rule over all men, that they contributed millions of dollars and speeches and wrote laws to allow the ally of the evil country to continue to break the Kings true purposes and that was to win the heart of all people in all lands, of all races.
Now, when the king asked of his subjects what they would do, if someone came to them and told them that He had given them a right to their home and their land, and forcefully removing them, while all the time lying and proclaiming His kingship to them, what would they do?
Of course, they held so tightly to the idea what was theirs was theirs, they said, they would fight back and keep what was theirs. Yet, while out of one part of their heart they understood their ownership of what was theirs, they went right on acting the opposite and contined to be disloyal to the King and His purposes. Then one day these same liars and hypocrites came and stole their land and homes as well, but they did it with subtleness, they convinced them that they really still owned it all, but giving them the rule over them would protect them from the kinsmen of the rightful owners of the land and home farway. They needed their protection as well so, the ally begin to serve the evil land and home takers every wish. While the King the true King was left with very few subjects, and when they spoke out against the thieves and the lies, they too were considered to be kinsmen to the rightful owners and were persecuted awfully and then came the day, they were killed by many who laid claim to their own personal ownership, and that of the thieves, but no one elses.
Now unto you it is given to understand the Parable.
Dr. J.
Monday, April 2, 2007
The Puritan, The Hebrew and America Revisioned
I have written before how, there are those in this nation, who lay claim to the idea that we are a "Chosen Nation of God" and they are doing their best to make their vote be the most important vote that a candidate can obtain. We are in essence taking dog's and having them to pretend they are holy Christians just so they can obtain votes. All one has to do as portray the idea that you are Christian, pro-life (which is baloney anyway, most of the prolifers I know are like Bush Pro-War- which is far from being Pro-Life), you believe in the Ten Commandments and on the list goes, depending on which denomination you are from.
The Christian Zionist and Christian Nationalist forget we have already had the experience once in this nation of a society that was driven by the conception of Christian law.
They were called the Puritans.
They dicatated everything about your life.
The people as a whole were liberty-loving in the extreme, but the individual was restrained at every step by laws that no free people of today would tolerate for an hour. Paternalism in government was the rule in the other colonies and in Europe, but nowhere was it carried to such an extreme as in New England.
Here the civil law laid its hand upon the citizen in his business and social relations; it regulated his religious affairs, it dictated his dress, and even invaded the home circle and directed his family relations. One law forbade the wearing of lace, another of "slashed cloaths other than one slash in each sleeve and another in the back." The length and width of a lady's sleeve was solemnly decided by law. It was a penal offense for a man to wear long hair, or to smoke in the street, or for a youth to court a maid without the consent of her parents. A man was not permitted to kiss his wife in public. Captain Kimble, returning from a three-years' ocean voyage, kissed his wife on his own doorstep and spent two hours in the stocks for his "lewed and unseemly behavior".
How far will the new Christian Nationalist take us down this road of their revisioned history to gain power in politics rather than power over sin in their own individual lives?
Will we become a people that will drag homosexuals out into the street, and hang them or stone them. Or will we be a people that presents the forgiveness and love of God to them and offer them an opportunity for repentance and faith in Jesus Christ? Will we brand those that are caught in adultery? Will we put people back into stocks on the courthouse yard? Will we take prostitutes out into a field and stone them. Perhaps we will do as the Puritans did, even hang those we think are practicing witchcraft or burn them at the stake. Those that even think they can rule this nation through laws they want to define as Christian are guilty of breaking these laws. Yet, they persist. They call themselves, Pro-life, well I am Pro-Life- I believe all life is precious to the Father, and therefore I am also truly Pro-life in that I am pro-anti-resistant to war, any war for any cause - creates death and destruction. So, out of one side of your mouth you proclaim - Thou Shall Not Murder, yet we back a candidate who has been responsible for more murders than you can count. He began as Governor of Texas, more people died under his governship from capital punishment then any other governor, even one who claimed to be a sister in Christ was murdered by the State by his decision.
Pro-Life- that is a joke.
I would like to provide you with a website to read, something written which is the simple Gospel for Pro-Zionist, and all those who get on the Ten Commandment band wagon. I recommend you read below his article from http://www.apuritansmind.com/Tracts%20and%20Writings/KeepingTheLaw.htm
In the end, would you like to have every aspect of your life from what you wear, to what you do on Sabbath or the Lord's Day dictated by a few and the powerful, as the Puritans did. We have already realized once in this country the terrible results of this kind of thinking, do we have to relive it again. Study history, what the Christian Nationalist, and Pro-Zionist are pushing for in this country has already happened once in this country and many times throughout history and the world. The results were not freedom or liberty as found in Jesus Christ but a very narrow conscriptive way of life for all involved.
There is nothing greater that threatens religious liberty and the freedom of men than a government that is religious.
Dr. J.
With all this in mind - ask yourself again - How well do "I" keep the Law?
This was the summation of Dr. C. Matthew McMahon and his writing if you read it, on his web site called a Puritan's Mind.
The Christian Zionist and Christian Nationalist forget we have already had the experience once in this nation of a society that was driven by the conception of Christian law.
They were called the Puritans.
They dicatated everything about your life.
The people as a whole were liberty-loving in the extreme, but the individual was restrained at every step by laws that no free people of today would tolerate for an hour. Paternalism in government was the rule in the other colonies and in Europe, but nowhere was it carried to such an extreme as in New England.
Here the civil law laid its hand upon the citizen in his business and social relations; it regulated his religious affairs, it dictated his dress, and even invaded the home circle and directed his family relations. One law forbade the wearing of lace, another of "slashed cloaths other than one slash in each sleeve and another in the back." The length and width of a lady's sleeve was solemnly decided by law. It was a penal offense for a man to wear long hair, or to smoke in the street, or for a youth to court a maid without the consent of her parents. A man was not permitted to kiss his wife in public. Captain Kimble, returning from a three-years' ocean voyage, kissed his wife on his own doorstep and spent two hours in the stocks for his "lewed and unseemly behavior".
How far will the new Christian Nationalist take us down this road of their revisioned history to gain power in politics rather than power over sin in their own individual lives?
Will we become a people that will drag homosexuals out into the street, and hang them or stone them. Or will we be a people that presents the forgiveness and love of God to them and offer them an opportunity for repentance and faith in Jesus Christ? Will we brand those that are caught in adultery? Will we put people back into stocks on the courthouse yard? Will we take prostitutes out into a field and stone them. Perhaps we will do as the Puritans did, even hang those we think are practicing witchcraft or burn them at the stake. Those that even think they can rule this nation through laws they want to define as Christian are guilty of breaking these laws. Yet, they persist. They call themselves, Pro-life, well I am Pro-Life- I believe all life is precious to the Father, and therefore I am also truly Pro-life in that I am pro-anti-resistant to war, any war for any cause - creates death and destruction. So, out of one side of your mouth you proclaim - Thou Shall Not Murder, yet we back a candidate who has been responsible for more murders than you can count. He began as Governor of Texas, more people died under his governship from capital punishment then any other governor, even one who claimed to be a sister in Christ was murdered by the State by his decision.
Pro-Life- that is a joke.
I would like to provide you with a website to read, something written which is the simple Gospel for Pro-Zionist, and all those who get on the Ten Commandment band wagon. I recommend you read below his article from http://www.apuritansmind.com/Tracts%20and%20Writings/KeepingTheLaw.htm
In the end, would you like to have every aspect of your life from what you wear, to what you do on Sabbath or the Lord's Day dictated by a few and the powerful, as the Puritans did. We have already realized once in this country the terrible results of this kind of thinking, do we have to relive it again. Study history, what the Christian Nationalist, and Pro-Zionist are pushing for in this country has already happened once in this country and many times throughout history and the world. The results were not freedom or liberty as found in Jesus Christ but a very narrow conscriptive way of life for all involved.
There is nothing greater that threatens religious liberty and the freedom of men than a government that is religious.
Dr. J.
With all this in mind - ask yourself again - How well do "I" keep the Law?
This was the summation of Dr. C. Matthew McMahon and his writing if you read it, on his web site called a Puritan's Mind.
Wednesday, March 28, 2007
Christian Nationalism and Article 6 - Clause 3
I have long been bothered by the notion of Christian Nationalism, and this as a Christian.
It is a scary idea and as dangerous as any totalitarian ideas that have come along in a very long time.
It is a movement that purports to have come up with a complete governing program from the Bible, and with that they claim divine sanction for a campaign of national renewal. It promotes a revisionist history in which the founders were conservative Christians who never meant to separate church and state, and in which America's true Christian character has been subverted by several generations of God-hating leftists.
America admittedly has been subverted, but it isn't because Christians weren't in positions of power and money. The church today is wealthy, and it has always had the right to exercise vote on issues. What happened, Christians were less concerned with social and political changes for the "all" then they were with investing money into building funds, expansion of their particular denominational ideas, and sitting quietly in their pews. While sin will continue until Christ returns, legislation will not create a redeemed man, woman or child.
Only the life of Christ can do this. It is apparent that the problem doesn't lie so much in our form of government, but those that are governed who have lived ungodly lives and lived in religious institutions, hiding from the world.
Christian Nationalist dogma has very scary results. History has proven this time after time. any religious group no matter what they subscribe to, always ends badly.
Let's see how our forefathers first solved the problem when the government disinherited any one religion from running this country.
Article Six, Clause 3 states: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Now this is true separation of Church from State.
Now to the liberals, this never meant a man couldn't be a Christian and serve in a political position as they would like to see.
What it meant was that government would never make the mistake of creating an alliance with any one religous view to rule the masses based on it's concepts of justice or other.
Religious equality was it's purpose.
It was a radical idea, that has protected us all from tyranny for a very long time.
To quote from a source;
But its hard to get around the simple fact that there is no mention of God or Christianity anywhere in the Constitution. This was not because the Framers were irreligious. It was because they believed in religious freedom and did not want the government to interfere in religious affairs. Nor did they want the abuses of power that come from commonly state power with the power of the clergy. Its true that the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution or any of the amendments.
But the meaning has been unambiguously been there from the beginning.
The danger of Christian Nationalism, is that a very few are to dictate for the all, what is good, what is evil, what is allowed, what isn't allowed, and so on. This is totalitarianism in it's fullest definition. Who will decide, that their interpertation of law that they extropolate from scripture is truth? Who will exercise judgement of these laws? Men? Men, that simply because they say they are Christian will rule above all others and all other concepts of justice and equality. This is dangerous. This creates despots and dictators. What one must never forget is:
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
History is already written and overrun with the story of those who thought they were God's specially called individual to create the "City of God", from Popes, clergymen to political leaders. It always has resulted in a preponderance of blood shed, inquisitions, war, and power exercised over the impoverished.
When will Christians see that in the Old Testament that they so suddenly want to rule with, the folly of a people who thought they could keep the law, Israel. The law is the schoolmaster to Christ.
For Christians, we need to less concern ourselves with making law and dictating that law, as bringing others to Christ. We are called as ministers of reconciliation. All of us who claim the name of Christ.
Politics and the Law is not where souls are saved.
People get saved when they see God's love and forgiveness. Yes, judgement is part of God's plan but it is just that it belongs to God and not us. Now someday when Christ our Judge and Lawgiver returns there will be a true "theocracy" once again worldwide, but only Christ can judge righteously and without bias. Only those that this flesh has been cut from completely and finally in our total transformation from what we are now, a fallen man, saved only because of the grace of God to the revelation of being the true sons of God, will we be able to judge righteously.
It doesn't promote Christianity, but Artice 6, Clause 3, is very wise in the context of things and prevents, any one denomination, religion or other to be the test for serving in these positions of political power.
Let me ask the Baptist, would you be happy if all the Congressman and Legislators were Catholic? Of course not. What if all the Congressman and Legislators were Baptist. What then would become of the law of the land? Would it appease all those divided denominations to be ruled by others of another because they to can lay claim to be Christian as being defined by the leaders of these Christian Nationalistic ideas. Would you accept a Mormon, or A Jehovah Witness, or a Unitarian, who also say they are Christian.
Of course not, you would define and dictate what YOU consider Christian and all others would be overruled. Who would decide what is Christian and what isn't - a few over the all?
I will say as a Christian that there must have been some tremendous wisdom that did come from a higher authority to come up with Article 6, Clause 3.
I would prefer to think as a Christian that God would prefer we leave as it is. We need to quit trying to revise history to make people believe lies. Get busy living and preaching the Good News, and get out of the pulpits of preaching a moral majority rightness that you are allowing others to dictate. You want to see the world turned upside down for Jesus, get up out of your pews and reachout to the hurting, the AIDS victims, the poor, the orphan, the widow, the drug addict and more. Let love become real!
I promise you will see a change in America and it won't come from legislating and punishing anyone that disagrees with you. It will come because the love of God will be shed abroad in their hearts. Love conquers all.
Sin has it's consequenses, and we all live with them. Trying to legislate righteousness didn't work for Israel and it won't work for America. A changed people, that are truly the reflection of God's love toward men, this will change America.
It is dangerous to think you can trample on the choice of others, because you decide what is wrong or right and most often from a fleshly self centered interpretation of scripture.
I am not getting on the boat to these ideas of Christian Nationalism. My hope is not in these kingdoms, which are all false and ungodly. My hope is in the Kingdom of God, where Christ rules MY life.
Quit worrying about everyone else, and get concerned with yourself. What sins are you hiding now? What things in your life need to be brought under the kingship of Jesus?
Now if you being a man, of failure in so many areas of your life, how can you possible expect to rule America while you are a sinner. "Judge not less you might be judged."
I think our forefathers had more foresight than any Christian Nationalist when they wrote Article 6 , Clause 3.
With such wisdom, it had to be clearly the intervention of a wise and loving God.
Now if you want to say our forefathers were all Christians and re-write history, go ahead. But before you do, perhaps then you will look at the godly wisdom they had to write this in the Constitution and yet you want to change it. What does that say about this unChristian movement wanting to make a correlation between the cross and the flag. I say it spells the words out clearly - IDOLATRY AND PRIDE.
You're wrong, flat wrong! Christian Nationalism is dangerous to your spiritual health.
REPENT while you can, before it's too late, and the new RELIGIOUS LEADER OF THE WORLD IS DECLARED by the Christian Nationalist, the Christian Zionist. From this unholy union they preach will arise a world False Prophet for sure! Don''t be fooled.
Dr. J.
It is a scary idea and as dangerous as any totalitarian ideas that have come along in a very long time.
It is a movement that purports to have come up with a complete governing program from the Bible, and with that they claim divine sanction for a campaign of national renewal. It promotes a revisionist history in which the founders were conservative Christians who never meant to separate church and state, and in which America's true Christian character has been subverted by several generations of God-hating leftists.
America admittedly has been subverted, but it isn't because Christians weren't in positions of power and money. The church today is wealthy, and it has always had the right to exercise vote on issues. What happened, Christians were less concerned with social and political changes for the "all" then they were with investing money into building funds, expansion of their particular denominational ideas, and sitting quietly in their pews. While sin will continue until Christ returns, legislation will not create a redeemed man, woman or child.
Only the life of Christ can do this. It is apparent that the problem doesn't lie so much in our form of government, but those that are governed who have lived ungodly lives and lived in religious institutions, hiding from the world.
Christian Nationalist dogma has very scary results. History has proven this time after time. any religious group no matter what they subscribe to, always ends badly.
Let's see how our forefathers first solved the problem when the government disinherited any one religion from running this country.
Article Six, Clause 3 states: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Now this is true separation of Church from State.
Now to the liberals, this never meant a man couldn't be a Christian and serve in a political position as they would like to see.
What it meant was that government would never make the mistake of creating an alliance with any one religous view to rule the masses based on it's concepts of justice or other.
Religious equality was it's purpose.
It was a radical idea, that has protected us all from tyranny for a very long time.
To quote from a source;
But its hard to get around the simple fact that there is no mention of God or Christianity anywhere in the Constitution. This was not because the Framers were irreligious. It was because they believed in religious freedom and did not want the government to interfere in religious affairs. Nor did they want the abuses of power that come from commonly state power with the power of the clergy. Its true that the words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution or any of the amendments.
But the meaning has been unambiguously been there from the beginning.
The danger of Christian Nationalism, is that a very few are to dictate for the all, what is good, what is evil, what is allowed, what isn't allowed, and so on. This is totalitarianism in it's fullest definition. Who will decide, that their interpertation of law that they extropolate from scripture is truth? Who will exercise judgement of these laws? Men? Men, that simply because they say they are Christian will rule above all others and all other concepts of justice and equality. This is dangerous. This creates despots and dictators. What one must never forget is:
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
History is already written and overrun with the story of those who thought they were God's specially called individual to create the "City of God", from Popes, clergymen to political leaders. It always has resulted in a preponderance of blood shed, inquisitions, war, and power exercised over the impoverished.
When will Christians see that in the Old Testament that they so suddenly want to rule with, the folly of a people who thought they could keep the law, Israel. The law is the schoolmaster to Christ.
For Christians, we need to less concern ourselves with making law and dictating that law, as bringing others to Christ. We are called as ministers of reconciliation. All of us who claim the name of Christ.
Politics and the Law is not where souls are saved.
People get saved when they see God's love and forgiveness. Yes, judgement is part of God's plan but it is just that it belongs to God and not us. Now someday when Christ our Judge and Lawgiver returns there will be a true "theocracy" once again worldwide, but only Christ can judge righteously and without bias. Only those that this flesh has been cut from completely and finally in our total transformation from what we are now, a fallen man, saved only because of the grace of God to the revelation of being the true sons of God, will we be able to judge righteously.
It doesn't promote Christianity, but Artice 6, Clause 3, is very wise in the context of things and prevents, any one denomination, religion or other to be the test for serving in these positions of political power.
Let me ask the Baptist, would you be happy if all the Congressman and Legislators were Catholic? Of course not. What if all the Congressman and Legislators were Baptist. What then would become of the law of the land? Would it appease all those divided denominations to be ruled by others of another because they to can lay claim to be Christian as being defined by the leaders of these Christian Nationalistic ideas. Would you accept a Mormon, or A Jehovah Witness, or a Unitarian, who also say they are Christian.
Of course not, you would define and dictate what YOU consider Christian and all others would be overruled. Who would decide what is Christian and what isn't - a few over the all?
I will say as a Christian that there must have been some tremendous wisdom that did come from a higher authority to come up with Article 6, Clause 3.
I would prefer to think as a Christian that God would prefer we leave as it is. We need to quit trying to revise history to make people believe lies. Get busy living and preaching the Good News, and get out of the pulpits of preaching a moral majority rightness that you are allowing others to dictate. You want to see the world turned upside down for Jesus, get up out of your pews and reachout to the hurting, the AIDS victims, the poor, the orphan, the widow, the drug addict and more. Let love become real!
I promise you will see a change in America and it won't come from legislating and punishing anyone that disagrees with you. It will come because the love of God will be shed abroad in their hearts. Love conquers all.
Sin has it's consequenses, and we all live with them. Trying to legislate righteousness didn't work for Israel and it won't work for America. A changed people, that are truly the reflection of God's love toward men, this will change America.
It is dangerous to think you can trample on the choice of others, because you decide what is wrong or right and most often from a fleshly self centered interpretation of scripture.
I am not getting on the boat to these ideas of Christian Nationalism. My hope is not in these kingdoms, which are all false and ungodly. My hope is in the Kingdom of God, where Christ rules MY life.
Quit worrying about everyone else, and get concerned with yourself. What sins are you hiding now? What things in your life need to be brought under the kingship of Jesus?
Now if you being a man, of failure in so many areas of your life, how can you possible expect to rule America while you are a sinner. "Judge not less you might be judged."
I think our forefathers had more foresight than any Christian Nationalist when they wrote Article 6 , Clause 3.
With such wisdom, it had to be clearly the intervention of a wise and loving God.
Now if you want to say our forefathers were all Christians and re-write history, go ahead. But before you do, perhaps then you will look at the godly wisdom they had to write this in the Constitution and yet you want to change it. What does that say about this unChristian movement wanting to make a correlation between the cross and the flag. I say it spells the words out clearly - IDOLATRY AND PRIDE.
You're wrong, flat wrong! Christian Nationalism is dangerous to your spiritual health.
REPENT while you can, before it's too late, and the new RELIGIOUS LEADER OF THE WORLD IS DECLARED by the Christian Nationalist, the Christian Zionist. From this unholy union they preach will arise a world False Prophet for sure! Don''t be fooled.
Dr. J.
George Washington - A Christian?
There is an argument that has continued especially in recent days with the movement of the right wing moralist, Christian Nationalist, that George Washington was a Christian and not a Dietist. Dr. Kenendy of Coral Ridge Ministries argues for this stand profusely in his attempt to make us all believe that America is suppose to be a Theocracy ruled by God and therefore all American does and is, we are a country founded by God. I take issue with Dr. Kennedy who looks past the best of evidence that George Washington was not a Christian but a Free Mason.
Now it may be true, he spoke of Christianity, he spoke of God, he spoke of the Bible, he even was a busy churchman.
In NO way does this ever prove he was Christian. Why can I say this with such assertiveness, Simply, because a man goes to church, uses the name of God, and talks in Christian terms, never defines a Christian. Let's look at some facts contrary to Dr. Kennedy- being a churchman, would put anyone that goes to church as a Christian, the facts are George was a Free Mason.
Look at these matters:
Now it may be true, he spoke of Christianity, he spoke of God, he spoke of the Bible, he even was a busy churchman.
In NO way does this ever prove he was Christian. Why can I say this with such assertiveness, Simply, because a man goes to church, uses the name of God, and talks in Christian terms, never defines a Christian. Let's look at some facts contrary to Dr. Kennedy- being a churchman, would put anyone that goes to church as a Christian, the facts are George was a Free Mason.
Look at these matters:
Many legends circulate about the masonic activities of George Washington. Below is a list of documentable masonic occurrences within the lifetime of George Washington. Indeed, some lore about the various lodges that he may have visited are surely true, but without written contemporary proof, do not appear in this list. In addition to these masonic lodges, ceremonies and celebrations, at least fourteen letters survive written by Washington to various masonic lodges and grand lodges expressing his esteem for the fraternity. He owned at least two masonic aprons, three masonic constitutions and a masonic jewel, as seen in his estate papers at the time of his death in 1799. The facts can be researched and proven true, if one takes the time to look them up. | |
For example from George Washingtons Mount Vernon Estate and Gardens - Answers comes the following: Do you have a record of his membership in Freemasonry? So I did just that via the Internet. Here is the timetable presented. 1752 November 4 If any body should know a Mason it would be another Mason, these records are drawn from their records and Washingtons estate records. | |
Now it would seem that Dr. Kennedy and the so called presuppositional research of those trying to prove George was a Christian they manage to throw truth out with the bathwater. It is easy for a man to be misunderstood as to what he believes simply because he or she uses Christian terms, attends a church or other is involved in so called Christian activities..
This is proved through many cults, and understanding how important semantics become in defining what they really believe..
One, must look behind what is said and how it is defined.
Free Masons have infiltrated American churches for centuries.
When I was in Bible school I had a Bible teacher who was not only a Baptist ordained minister he was a 32nd degree Mason. I understood Free Masonry because I had read everything I could get my hands on them from the time I was 15 years of age. I had found Albert Pike's book "Morals and Dogma in an old abandoned home alongside a creek we played in where I lived in Richardson, Texas. I was fascinated with all it's mysterious philosphy, and dogma and more and it's initiations and steps to reach each degree.
I later picked up some additional books on Free Masons, written by them, and came to realize by age 20, what they had was truly a cult, anti-Christian, and that they believed in Lucifer as a good and works salvation. So, when this teacher would speak things that I found were very religous, but not scriptural, I would challenge him. He hated the challenges because he could never give a consistent answer from scripture. He had all the venacular and speech you would think a Christian had, he even had a church he pastored as a Southern Baptist.
Along with my coming to understand their teachings and dogma, my best friend and his friend when I was young were DeMolay members. I had talked with him, and knew a lot about what went on in the meetings for the youth. I was well informed, and I knew in my heart of heart, that all the references to God, Jesus Christ, and salvation, etc. was as evil and cultic as anything I had come across.
They were not Orthodox and surely not defined by scripture.
George Washington was a Deitist/Church Goer and a Free Mason.
He was not Christian because it is impossible for the two to be compatible in doctrine or faith.
Regardless, how hard the Dr. Kennedy's of this world, who pride themselves in wearing their Doctorate garb with it's stripes on the sleeve while spewing garbage out of their mouth. telling lies, is telling lies.
Let's look at some other facts.
On September 18, 1793, the cornerstone of the Capitol was officially laid. The Grand Lodge of Maryland presided over the ceremony and George was asked to serve as Master. The affiliated Lodges under Maryland's jurisdiction were in attendance, as was his own Lodge from Alexandria. There was a great procession, which included a company of artillery. Then came a band, followed by himself, attended by all officers and members of the Lodges in full Masonic regalia.
When George reached the trench in which the northeast cornerstone was laid, he was presented with a silver plate commemorating the event and inscribed with the designations of the Lodges in attendance. The artillery fired a volley. He then descended into the trench and placed the plate on the stone. Around it was placed containers of corn, wine and oil. All present joined in prayer, and the artillery fired another volley.
All of this was part to Free Masonry dedication of buildings.
On August 4, 1753, George Washington became a Master Mason, the highest rank in the Fraternity of Freemasonry, in his hometown of Fredericksburg, Virginia. The 21-year-old young man would soon hold his first military commission.
For George Washington, joining the masons was a rite of passage and an expression of civic responsibility. Members were required to express their belief in a Supreme Being and in the immortality of the soul. Masons were also expected to obey the civil law, hold a high moral standard, and practice acts of charity.
36 years after he became a 3rd degree Mason, on April 30, 1789, George was inaugurated as the first President of the United States with John Adams as Vice-President. The oath that George took was administered by the Grand Master of the Masonic Grand Lodge of New York. Both the Marshal of the day and his escort were generals in the United States Army and Masons. The Bible on which he swore his oath was that of St John's Lodge of New York. George, himself, was Master of the Lodge at Alexandria, Virginia.
Six years and three months later, in December, 1799, George Washington died. He was buried at his home at Mount Vernon, with full Masonic honors, by the Alexandria Lodge, whose members were his pallbearers.
There is no question that Masonry contributed something to the structures and machinery of the American government. The Constitution of the United States, in a very real sense, is a Masonic document. In its final form, the Constitution represented the collective thoughts of Ben Franklin, Edmund Randolph, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and George Washington. Of these, all but Jefferson were not only active Masons, but men who took their Freemasonry extremely seriously.
Now, many ministers and their congregation both Anglican and Episcopalian during these times subscribed to both Deism and Christianity . George may have had some Christian views that were in contrast to Deism in that he thought "Providence" did intervene in history whereas most Deist do not. This in no way changes the facts, that he was a Free Mason, and with all that I can proclaim- to subscribe to Free Mason teachings one CANNOT be a Christian.
There are many Free Mason that are serious churchmen. Attending the man made temples, and listening to men who like to stand in the market places with their phalacteries and long flowing robes, and gain the attention of all.They especially enjoy this as the sole speaker for a church group. This doesn't make one a Christian. Regardless of what you believe - George may have had some "good" ideas, and some "christian ideas" but in so doing and in no way states that he was "born again " of the Spirit of God and a man abiding in Christ.
It amazes me to the extent that "Christian Nationalist" will go to try to take truth and twist it for their agenda to eventually establish their ideas of a theocracy for all of us, and how quick they are to return this country to rule by the Old Testament shadows, for their sake of definition of what Christianity is, which is nothing more than Judaism with Talmudic law, and Free Mason concepts. They have commited idolatry and adulterous whoredom mixing Christ with national political ideas. To say that any nation is Christian that is on this earth at this present time. While the sin and autrocites of American life continue.
Dr. Kennedy needs to take his robe off, no one with his supposed credentials should ever be considered a Doctor of Divinity or Ministry when he would deny the truth and stretch it to his benefit and his ideals that this nation was founded by God.
All nations will be judged by God including Israel and the United States of America.
Kennedy is still very fascinated with the kingdoms of this world. and should have his mind on heavenly things rather than trying to lift things up of this earth to his ideas of heaven on earth.
Dr. Kennedy needs a new focus - the Kingdom of God! The Kingdom of God is not America or Israel or any other nation on this earth.
In summary, I will tell you once again, it is impossible for Free Masonry and Christianity to ever be compatible - they are in direct contradiction to one another.
I wonder if Dr. Kennedy might have a Masonic ring on his finger or at least a few Masonic contributors to his ministry?
I challenge him to stay with the truth, preach the truth and flee the falsehoods he so wants to convince America of.
It is this kind of twisting of history that every totalitarian regime has exercised, to accomplish their task to brainwash the general public and be blind to truth.
Galatians 5:7-9
You were doing so well! Who made you stop obeying the truth? How did he persuade you? It was not done by God, who calls you. "It takes only a little yeast to make the whole batch of dough rise," as they say.
2 Timothy 4:3-5
The time will come when people will not listen to sound doctrine, but will follow their own desires and will collect for themselves more and more teachers who will tell them what they are itching to hear. They will turn away from listening to the truth and give their attention to legends. But you must keep control of yourself in all circumstances; endure suffering, do the work of a preacher of the Good News, and perform your whole duty as a servant of God.
Dr. J.
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