The Move Toward Noahdic Law in America and How Dispensationlism Helps

I stated sometime back in an article, that I would discuss just what Noahdic Law is.
Most Christian Americans have no idea what these laws are, their importance to understanding present Judaism and the great harm of Dispensationalism that it brings to America and our ideal of "equal justice under law" .

Most Christians are under the misinformed belief that those practicing Judaism strictly follow only the Torah and it's 613 commandments. They are deadly wrong. We have been misinformed by Preachers and Sunday School teachers for too long that have spoken on a subject they are clearly ignorant about or have chosen to conceal the truth. Judaism has the Torah, this is true, but the first five books of the Bible which you think they believe only in and practice is not what they go by. The Talmud is their Bible. The Talmud interprets the Torah for them.
To understand the how that the Talmud came about, you have to go back to what transpired after the Babylonian captivity. The Jews feared ever breaking the Torah again, as they feared being sent back into capitivity. So as time went by, in order to find someway put the brakes on anyone of them breaking the Law, they begin to create what we can call "fence laws", these laws were simply fence's around the Torah, so that if one broke these, he had not broken the Torah or the Commandments of God.
For example, one of the laws reasoned out was on eating goat and drinking goats milk. It is forbidden under the Mosaic law to boil a kid in it's mother's milk. This law given by God was intended to keep OT Israel from taking on Canaanite practices. There was some sort of Cannanite pagan practice of boiling a goat kid in it's mother's milk then sprinkling it on a field in a fertility right of sort. So God, thought it best to lay down this command to keep His people unto Himself pure from all idolatry. Which forms the commandment, "Thou shall have no other God's before me". Now soon after the Babylonian capitivity the Sophrem or Sages, begin to expound and pass along orally, new fence laws associated with the Torah Law. For example, they eventually begin to separate their meat dishes from their milk dishes, etc. Why? Here is the reasoning, if one sat down and ate some goat meat, then drank down some goat's milk and it went into the stomach, the digestive process would heat up that goat's milk and in ther thinking would boil the goat kid. What if, that goats meat came from the kid of the mother that the goat milk came from - well they had violated God's law. So there were discussions on how long one would have to wait to eat the meat after the milk so that this wouldnt take place, and on and on argument went to the formation of a new law or fence law that would put the brakes on breaking the true Torah.
Now, perhaps one might break these dish laws, but they wouldn't have broken God's law ncessarily. So they built one by one fence laws around the true law, the Torah. This provided protection for them from ever going into captivity again in the vanity of their minds and logic. They built all kinds of arguments into fence laws such as this on several matters other than eating. They argued over things like what made a vessel clean or unclean.
At this point, the Sophrem laws were not supreme, they were recongnized only as the "fence laws" around the true Torah which still remained true law. The Sophrem law could be debated, not the Torah or what is known as the Tenakh. Well, after awhile new teachers came along and they begin to take these arguments and expound on these "fence laws" of the Sophrem, and they come up with new laws or commentary on the law of the Sages, these formed a fence law around the fence law. For the time, this was fine, but then the Tanna begin to say that the Sophrem law was to be obeyed, never argued and the Torah begin to become not the center of law, but to fade away to the Sophrem law. The Tanna was arguable but the initial fence laws were not.
This is about the time when Jesus came into the picture. Thus he debated with them on both aspects trying to make them see God's intent of the Torah and to see they had broken it with their traditions of men. Jesus was constantly upsetting them with the breaking of their traditions or the Oral Law and the written law. Jesus the Son of God, God incarnate could declare the law as He saw fit. Why not, he was God manifest in the flesh. He broke them from not washing his hands before a meal (which is equal to being a murderer under the Talmudic law) to walking through a corn field ( sowing, reaping and storing of the grain) and eating and healing on a Sabbath. On and on he violated the traditions of men making love His first priority. Now, have you ever read any of these laws Talmudic laws in the Torah. of course not, because they aren't there. They are the figment of many years of Judaic imagination, speculation and thought. Much like the traditions of men, today in the church that have been developed which are not scriptural based but based upon the writings and commentary on scripture of over 1900 years.
The Rabbi's taught the Jews that these laws which now superceded the Torah (Tenakh) had been handed down secretly to Moses from God for his people and the people accepted this explanation. Out of these writings, came the Mishnah ( the oral tradition), the Gemara the explanations and analysis of the Tanna and what today is known as the summation of all these as the Talmud.
This is the Bible of people who practice Judaism, along with the Kabbala a mystical Jewish theology based on numbers. If you haven't read the Talmud, as I have much of it, It sometimes difficult reading because the reasoning in it becomes non-logical in my opinion at times, and much of it's law is very pro-Jewish and anti-Gentile and even anti-Christ and anti-Christian. See http://www.talmudunmasked.com/ - Though this is written by a Catholic it very astutely points to the anti-Christian views of the later Rabbi's.

Now, what are the Noahdic Laws.
Here is a summary of explanation:

Following the great flood Yahweh made a covenant with Noah and all of his decendants known as the Noahdic Covenant (see Gen. 9.) This Noahdic Covenant included what is called in Judaism "The Seven Laws of Noah." These are seven laws which can be drawn from the opening portion of Genesis prior to the calling out of Abraham and his decendants (the Jews), as a result these seven Laws apply to all mankind. (Jews and Gentiles.)

These Seven Laws of Noah are:

1. Against idolatry.
2. Against fornication.
3. Against murder.
4. Against blasphemy.
5. Against theft.
6. Against eating the limb of a living animal.
7. To promote justice.

The requirement for justice found in this list is derived from Gen. 9:5-6 where man is commanded to institute capitol punishment. Thus man was empowered to establish human government. For this reason Dispensationalist Christians recognize this as the beginning of what they call "the Age of Human Government." In Judaism this justice commandment is recognized as an obligation on the part of man to establish courts and governments to enforce the other six laws of Noah.
In this way Yahweh empowered man to govern himself.

Now given the their direct enpowerment from the Old Testament, they built upon these laws as well. This building of fence laws and defining the law as well became part to the Talmud.

Here is the danger to our society and American freedom. They are not laws or definitions of those laws by the Jewish community that offer in any sense, "equal justice under the law."

For example:
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In contrast, Talmud law insists on unequal justice under law. Talmudic law holds there is one law for Jews, and one for Gentiles. This is not inconsistent with the Old Testament, in which LORD God decrees that Jews should not enslave other Jews: Gentiles are the proper slaves of Jews.

44. Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

Gentiles Easy To Convict

Under Jewish law, Gentiles are easy to convict for capital crimes; but it is difficult to convict Jews. The standards of proof are different.

For a Jew to be convicted by a Jewish court, two eyewitnesses must have seen the perpetrator about to commit the crime and warned him of the potential penalty. The murderer must verbally answer that he chooses to proceed anyway. (For a non-Jew, only one witness is required and no verbal warning.)

Rabbi Adlerstein, as told to Naomi Pfefferman (5)

Rabbi Adlerstein's statement is confirmed by the Talmud.

(When excerpting the Talmud, we sometimes omit footnotes and non-germane text. The omission of text is indicated by an ellipsis (…). The full text and footnotes may be found by following the hot link at the end of the excerpt. It is our pleasure to make available the text of the complete tractates cited in this article, so you may read the Talmud in full context.)

GEMARA. … R. Jacob b. Aha found it written in the scholars' Book of Aggada: A heathen is executed on the ruling of one judge, on the testimony of one witness, without a formal warning, on the evidence of a man, but not of a woman, even if he [the witness] be a relation.

Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 57b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 390

Rabbi Adlerstein's statement is also confirmed by Talmud scholar and translator, Rabbi Dr. H. Freedman. In the following quotes, "Noahide" means a non-Jew. Rabbi Dr. Freedman tells us twenty-three judges must sit on a court that hears a capital case against a Jew; when a Gentile is tried on a capital charge, one (Jewish) judge is required.

5. A Noachide is tried by one judge, and on the testimony of one witness only, and is executed even if no formal admonition preceded his offence; a Jew is tried by a court of twenty-three, on the testimony of at least two, and only after formal admonition. Moreover, a gentile is decapitated, whereas a Jew is stoned.

Rabbi Dr. Freedman (6)

Laws Different for Jew and Gentile

Not only are the court procedures and the standards of evidence different from one class to the other, the very laws are different. For example, if a Jew murders a Gentile, there is no death penalty.

GEMARA. … 'For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty'

Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 57a
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 388

But if a Gentile strikes a Jew, "he is worthy of death."

GEMARA. … R. Hanina said: If a heathen smites a Jew, he is worthy of death, for it is written, And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian. R. Hanina also said: He who smites an Israelite on the jaw, is as though he had thus assaulted the Divine Presence; for it is written, one who smiteth man [i.e. an Israelite] attacketh the Holy One.

— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 58b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 398

No Jury of Peers under Talmud Law

Talmud law does not provide for the accused to be tried by a jury of his peers. In Talmud law, the accused is tried by rabbis.

Ox Gets 23 Judges

In case there were any doubt about the place of the Gentile in Talmud law, the following excerpt from Sanhedrin 2a settles the question. Recall that a capital case against a Gentile is heard by one judge. According to Sanhedrin 2a, a capital case against an ox, a hyena, or a serpent is tried by 23 judges.
MISHNAH. … CAPITAL CASES ARE ADJUDICATED BY TWENTY-THREE. THE PERSON OR BEAST CHARGED WITH UNNATURAL INTERCOURSE, BY TWENTY-THREE, AS IT IS WRITTEN, THOU SHALT KILL THE WOMAN AND THE BEAST, AND ALSO, AND YE SHALL SLAY THE BEAST. THE OX TO BE STONED IS TRIED BY TWENTY-THREE, AS IT IS WRITTEN, THE OX SHALL BE STONED AND ITS OWNER SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH — AS THE DEATH OF THE OWNER, SO THAT OF THE OX, CAN BE DECIDED ONLY BY TWENTY-THREE. THE DEATH SENTENCE ON THE WOLF OR THE LION OR THE BEAR OR THE LEOPARD OR THE HYENA OR THE SERPENT IS TO BE PASSED BY TWENTY-THREE. R. ELIEZER SAYS: WHOEVER IS FIRST TO KILL THEM [WITHOUT TRIAL], ACQUIRES MERIT, R. AKIBA, HOWEVER, HOLDS THAT THEIR DEATH IS TO BE DECIDED BY TWENTY-THREE.
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 2aSoncino 1961 Edition, page 2

Soncino 1961 Edition, page 2

Perspective on Gentiles

A further perspective in traditional Jewish laws and attitudes concerning Gentiles is contained in What About Gentiles? (18) Of particular interest is the modern study by Rabbi David Bar-Chayim, the head of the Makhon Ben Yishai Institute for Torah Research. Israel National Radio calls Rabbi Bar-Chayim "one of Israel's Leading Torah Scholars." (19) Rabbi Bar-Chayim's essay, The Jews Are Called "Man," offers a definitive statement of the doctrines concerning Gentiles, with extensive references to many Jewish Scriptures. (20)

US Supreme Court Warms to the Talmud

Approximately three years after Nathan and Alyza Lewin filed the Bryan v. Moore amicus curiae brief a notable event in itself another notable event took place. A kosher dinner was held to honor the establishment of the National Institute for Judaic Law (NIJL). The dinner was attended by 200 people, including Supreme Court Justices Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer, Antonin Scalia. Nathan and Alyza Lewin also attended.

The site of the dinner? The United States Supreme Court Building in Washington, DC. The Jewish Week reported the event in this manner:

What does the Talmud have to say about legal and moral controversies in Modern America?

Plenty, according to the creators of the new Washington-based National Institute for Judaic Law, which opened with a lavish Supreme Court dinner last night.
Some Orthodox activists say they can't figure out exactly the point of the whole thing. But Noson Gurary, a Lubavitch rabbi who came up with the idea and won backing from some top Jewish legal experts, harbors no doubts.

— Jewish Week (2)

Noson Gurary is an ordained rabbi of the Chabad Lubavitch sect, and follower of late Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. Chabad Lubavitch is a movement within the Hasidic (sometimes spelled "Chasidic") branch of Judaism. Rabbi Gurary is the executive director of Chabad of Buffalo, New York. (3) He is co-author of several books on Hasidic and Chabad Lubavitch philosophy. (7) Hasidism embraces a Kabbalistic concept of God, the Ein-Sof, (8), a power reminiscent of "The Force" in George Lucas' Star Wars.

Coming from Where We've Never Been

The Jewish Week explains more of the NIJL project. In the following paragraph, macher is a Yiddish word meaning "big shot," a person with access to authorities. (10)

According to Gurary, the group, which has hired two researchers to compile reports, will focus initially on the issue of business ethics. Eventually, the goal is to compile a library and database in Washington that will offer Jewish law insights into a host of contemporary issues and to help create courses on the subject at law schools nationwide. The institute will also inaugurate a monthly lunch series for legal machers in Washington.

— Jewish Week (2)

The Jewish Week continues:

"It will be an eye opener for judges, scholars and law students," he told The Jewish Week. "Before you know where you're going, you have to system in America. You need to know where you came from. And Jewish law is the basis of our legal Gurary, who teaches at the University of Buffalo law school, said his target audience includes judges around the country and law students, not politicians and law students. "And as a teacher of Judaic studies, I began to see the excitement of students who were being exposed to Jewish law for the first time, who now had a better understanding of where Western law come from," Gurary said.

— Jewish Week (2)

It is a safe bet that all of Rabbi Gurary's students had been exposed to the Ten Commandments before, and none were encountering them "for the first time" in his classroom. Hence, Rabbi Gurary's term "Jewish law" must refer to Talmud law rather than Biblical law. Thus, Rabbi Gurary's statement reads that Western law "came from" Talmud law — and that is patently false. The sources for law in Europe and America include Roman law, Anglo-Saxon law, and the Western philosophers of Liberty. Neither American nor European law has ever institutionalized legal superiority of Jew over Gentile.

Bush Approves Talmudization of America

The Jerusalem Post reported the November 2002 kosher dinner as follows:

Jewish legal experts have created a new institute that will educate jurists and others about 2,000 years of Jewish law and promote the application of the teachings to contemporary legal disputes and other modern- day issues.

US President George W. Bush sent greetings and applauded the institute for promoting an "understanding of Judaism's rich tradition of legal thought".

"As we face new challenges and welcome new opportunities, our society must continue to promote good character and strong values. Through the study and teaching of Jewish law and philosophy you are contributing to a growing culture of service, citizenship, and responsibility in America," Bush wrote.

— The Jerusalem Post (1)

Justice Scalia Is a Key Player

The Jerusalem Post reports that Justice Antonin Scalia has high praise Jewish law.

Scalia, in a letter to the institute's founder, Noson Gurary, wrote that "Jewish law is certainly one of the oldest and most highly developed systems" and explained why the comparative study of legal traditions was beneficial.

— The Jerusalem Post (1)

In fact, Rabbi Gurary came up with the idea of the Institute as a result of correspondence with Justice Scalia:

Gurary said that the idea for the institute came in an exchange of letters in which Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, one of the most conservative Justices, expressed his "fascination with Jewish law."

— The Jerusalem Post (1)

Justice Scalia has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution and its Bill of Rights. Yet, by his attendance at this dinner he clearly indicated his support for an antithetical system: Talmud law. How does he reconcile the two? We are not told.

Talmud vs. Old Testament

Some non-Jews take the position that the Talmud perverted the Old Testament teachings. See, for example, Chapter I of Elizabeth Dilling's The Jewish Religion: It's Influence Today. The question then becomes: If the Talmud perverted Jewish law, what is real, un-perverted Jewish law the Jewish law of the Old Testament? What was the quality of justice that pervaded the mind-set of the ancient Jews? Should we in America emulate that Old Testament sense of justice?

We have prepared a sampling of Old Testament passages in a compendium called In His Own Image. (21) Let us examine an incident described in Genesis 34.

Shechem is a Gentile, a Hivite. Jacob's daughter, Dinah, catches his eye. Under circumstances not fully described, Shechem seduces Dinah. Shechem loves Dinah tenderly and wants her as his wife. He offers to give any dowry asked for her, and suggests to Jacob's family that their two tribes be joined. While harboring vengeance in their hearts, Jacob's sons (the progenitors of the Tribes of Israel) deceitfully agree to the merger, but insist that the Hivite men be circumcised. The Hivites agree. While the Hivite men are recovering from the operation and still in pain, the Hebrews attack the city, kill all the men, and take the women and children as captives slaves.

1. And Dinah the daughter of Leah, which she bare unto Jacob, went out to see the daughters of the land.
2. And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her, and lay with her, and defiled her.
3. And his soul clave unto Dinah the daughter of Jacob, and he loved the damsel, and spake kindly unto the damsel.
4. And Shechem spake unto his father Hamor, saying, Get me this damsel to wife.
5. And Jacob heard that he had defiled Dinah his daughter: now his sons were with his cattle in the field: and Jacob held his peace until they were come.
6. And Hamor the father of Shechem went out unto Jacob to commune with him.
7. And the sons of Jacob came out of the field when they heard it: and the men were grieved, and they were very wroth, because he had wrought folly in Israel in lying with Jacob's daughter: which thing ought not to be done.
8. And Hamor communed with them, saying, The soul of my son Shechem longeth for your daughter: I pray you give her him to wife.
9. And make ye marriages with us, and give your daughters unto us, and take our daughters unto you.
10. And ye shall dwell with us: and the land shall be before you; dwell and trade ye therein, and get you possessions therein.
11. And Shechem said unto her father and unto her brethren, Let me find grace in your eyes, and what ye shall say unto me I will give.
12. And Shechem said unto her father and unto her brethren, Let me find grace in your eyes, and what ye shall say unto me I will give.
13. Ask me never so much dowry and gift, and I will give according as ye shall say unto me: but give me the damsel to wife.
14. And the sons of Jacob answered Shechem and Hamor his father deceitfully, and said, because he had defiled Dinah their sister:
15. And they said unto them, We cannot do this thing, to give our sister to one that is uncircumcised; for that were a reproach unto us:
16. But in this will we consent unto you: If ye will be as we be, that every male of you be circumcised;
17. Then will we give our daughters unto you, and we will take your daughters to us, and we will dwell with you, and we will become one people.
18. But if ye will not hearken unto us, to be circumcised; then will we take our daughter, and we will be gone.
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24. And unto Hamor and unto Shechem his son hearkened all that went out of the gate of his city; and every male was circumcised, all that went out of the gate of his city.
25. And it came to pass on the third day, when they were sore, that two of the sons of Jacob, Simeon and Levi, Dinah's brethren, took each man his sword, and came upon the city boldly, and slew all the males.
26. And they slew Hamor and Shechem his son with the edge of the sword, and took Dinah out of Shechem's house, and went out.
27. The sons of Jacob came upon the slain, and spoiled the city, because they had defiled their sister.
28. They took their sheep, and their oxen, and their asses, and that which was in the city, and that which was in the field,
29. And all their wealth, and all their little ones, and their wives took they captive, and spoiled even all that was in the house.
30. And Jacob said to Simeon and Levi, Ye have troubled me to make me to stink among the inhabitants of the land, among the Canaanites and the Perizzites: and I being few in number, they shall gather themselves together against me, and slay me; and I shall be destroyed, I and my house.
31. And they said, Should he deal with our sister as with an harlot?

Genesis 34:1-18, 24-31

While many religions frown on sex before marriage, most of us understand that unmarried sex happens. If a man or even the son of the prince slept with our sister before marriage, few of us would think it appropriate to murder all the other men in the city, loot the fields and buildings, and take the women and children into slavery. Nor is it likely, having done such a thing, that we would find a sympathetic judge or jury to hear our case. In short, what we have here is a very different concept of justice so different that many of us could not agree it should be called "justice." The Bible passage shows that:

1. Shechem, a Gentile, is not accused of using force or violence on Dinah
2. Shechem declared his love for Dinah, and pleaded for her as his bride
3. Shechem asked Jacob to name any dowry he would like
4. Shechem expressed his good will toward Jacob's tribe, offering a merger of wealth and fortunes
5. Jacob's sons responded deceitfully, pretending friendship and planning murder
6. Jacob's sons slew other men who were not implicated in the seduction
7. The women and children taken in slavery were blameless victims — of Jacob's sons
8. Between the time that Shechem came to Jacob and the time that Dinah was taken from Shechem's house, there were approximately three days. During that time, Jacob and his sons knowingly permitted Dinah to be "defiled" without protest. In consideration of the treasure and slaves looted from the city, did not Jacob and his sons "deal with [their] sister as with an harlot?"

Jacob's final statement on the issue is particularly telling: He complained to his sons that they had put him at odds with the local tribes, and they might retaliate. In no other way did Jacob find fault with their actions.

We have examined each of the Soncino Scriptural index entries for Genesis Chapter 34: there are no comments from the Sages on the injustice in this incident. All apparently approve of the actions of their ancestors.

This is the Old Testament tradition, repeated over and over again through many narratives, as cited in In His Own Image. In particular, note the fate of those who do not follow the Hebrew religion they are put to death. Is this the tradition of law and justice for which we should trade our Bill of Rights?

A Little Beacon of Light

Many defend the Old Testament because, they say, it contains commandments that regulate human interaction and produce an ordered society. But earlier civilizations had codes of law regulating human society. See, for example, the Code of Hammurabi, who reigned in Babylon between 1795 and 1750 BC. (12) Moses received the Tablets of Stone in 1275 BC. (13) Hammurabi's Code was on public display approximately 500 years before LORD God's conversation with Moses on Mt. Sinai.

In its report of the November, 2002 kosher dinner at the Supreme Court, The Jerusalem Post quotes Rabbi Gurary thus:

By demonstrating the philosophy of Jewish law and its moral values, we can bring a little beacon of light to this world.

— Rabbi Gurary, quoted in The Jerusalem Post (1)

How much light Jewish law and its moral values brought to this world is a subject for open, informed discussion. See also Was Jesus a Jew?

Thank you for your consideration of the above,
Carol A. Valentine, Ear@Come-and-Hear.com
July 14, 2003 ( This article is on line at http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/capunish_4.html )

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Thank you Carol for your well informed piece I have reprinted above on this subject.

Now, I ask you does any of what the Judaic idea of Justice sound like justice as designed for America? Of course not, and perhaps we can better understand why their is no thought of protection afforded or even given to Christians in the State of Israel. Thousands of Palestinian Christians have died at the hands of Israel. It doesn't matter - they are Gentiles in their sense of law. Can you honestly support such a system that is apartheid and provides one sort of law for the Jew and another for the Gentile. I can't and won't.

I warn people like the Reverend John Hagee - persist in your practice of monetary support and political lobbying and it may mean your own death at the hands of those who falsely call themselves Israel.

How could the EKKLESIA of Jesus Christ make such a detrimental and terrible mistake as Dispensationalism. Easy, when the flesh is involved. I say unto the fleshly pre-millenial dispensational teachers. REPENT! Today is the day of salvation.

We will have no more of your unscriptural two or three returns of Christ, your gaps that are unscriptural for the return of blood sacrifice and the restoration of a Temple in Jerusalem, and all the fictional stuff Darby and Scofield's followers like Lindsey, LaHay and others have come up with.

I highly recommend you return to your Bibles and study and quit reading fiction and quit trying to create an Armegeddon. Do something constructive to bring peace to the Middle East.

"Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall see God"

"Through great tribualtion we enter the Kingdom of God" Acts 14:22.

The great tribulation is here and has been since Pentecost when the last days were declared from then on until when Christ comes. The only promise left for the Hebrew people is eternal life and the Holy Jerusalem built as the Temple of God, of which we are his priest and He our High Priest, and that dwelling place of God, if they will but recognize Jesus as the promise fulfilled in all things.

Christ has made the sacrifice and broken down the barrier between believing Jew and Gentile. The nation you so try to support is a nation made by violence and continued in violence and promotes violence, with all the justification they can rouse support for through a "church" blinded by the god of this world, Satan.

Will you, Christians Gentile accept the laws of the Talmud over the law of love, which Christ gave unto all men? Will you accept unequal justice and be the one on the recieving end of this kind of justice? I doubt it.

Wake up, Christians we need to strive for peace in the Middle East and we can when the demands for Israel to obey the laws already in place, is equal to the demands we put on all the rest of the nations.

It is the dispensationalist, that I will say, the blood of all of the saints will end up upon your hands and heads. Keep it up and wait and see. I promise you, God will reveal the truth and it will be too late for you,

Jesus is coming and He isn't waiting for Israel to take over land or these United States to conquer the world, or us to become as a nation a joint partner as church and state. Give your loyalty to Jesus and the Kingdom of God and not the kingdoms of this world, whether Jewish or Gentile.

Once, again I am not anti-semitic, I love the Jewish people and have some dear friends who are Jewish to whom I lift to Christ in prayer for their salvation daily.

I spent time just the other day conversing with a Messianic Jew, and it was a wonderful time of sharing our faith. Though he is Dispensationalist, I love him and pray that he too will see the truth and see how this doctrine divides and destroys that for which Christ died. To save all of Israel - his body - the EKKLESIA made up of many nations,as the stars in the sky, as promised Abraham.

All men who come to Christ are children of Abraham. We cannot allow the lie to continue, especially amongst the body of Christ of separate promises for the Jew and Gentile. The promise has come, and He must be recognized as Yeshua Meshiach - Jesus the Messiah who died for us on a cruel cross and shed his blood for all of us while were yet His enemy. Yeshua ( Jesus) who was raised the 3rd day, and now lives through his people resurrected, guiding us, sanctifying us, and bringing us to glory with Him by the Holy Spirit.

This is love, that God first loved us. Our response is to love all men, all races, all cultures equally, and as a "Christian American" to see that justice is "equal for all men." - especially in this country.

It is the words carved above on the entry to the Supreme Court of these United States. "Equal Justice Under Law".

The Law of the Talmud and the Law of these United States is incompatible.

Dr. J.